Who Is Olivia Rodrigo’s ‘Guts’ About? Does It Matter? Plus: Zach Bryan’s Arrest | Popcast (Deluxe)

This week’s episode of Popcast (Deluxe), the weekly culture roundup show on YouTube hosted by Jon Caramanica and Joe Coscarelli, includes segments on:

0:00 Introduction

2:23 Guts,” the new album by Olivia Rodrigo, who two years ago catapulted from mid-level Disney teen star to pop supernova with her single “Drivers License.” Rodrigo has become part of pop’s elite, and her new album reckons with what that means, for her and for everyone watching her.

36:31 Zach Bryan, whose new self-titled album is currently the No. 1 album in the country, and who has carved out an idiosyncratic path through country, bar rock and roots music. He was also arrested last week for interfering with a police investigation in connection with a traffic stop.

52:58 The rapper Cam’ron’s rebirth as a risqué sports podcaster on his show with Mase, “It Is What It Is”

01:01:11 New songs from Emilia, and Lil Peep & iLoveMakonnen

01:07:22 Snack of the week

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